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Saturday, September 05, 2020

Desperation


In the State of Oregon, when you buy a soda or bottled water or Gatorade or some other drink in a returnable container the vendor charges you a 10 cent per container deposit at the purchase point.

When you take them to the bottle return, you get that dime back.

For a few weeks (a shorter time when we have a houseful of people) we toss our returnables into a green bag that's hanging in the laundry room.

Every once in awhile, we scan our little keychain barcode at the grocery store kiosk and get a little printed ticket that takes 20 bucks or so off our grocery bill.

It feels like savings, although of course it's not.

We paid that money out, it's just being returned.

When we moved to Oregon in 1989, the bag boy (yes, it was always a boy) in every grocery store we patronized had to personally count them. We'd go to the back of the store, usually a dimly lit and stinky area that felt like a stop in another dimension and press the customer service button.

(And why do they call it customer 'service' anyway? Asking for a friend...)

Eventually a kid would show up to count the cans.
One.
At.
A.
Time.

He usually wore latex gloves, but sometimes did it bare-handed. A really shitty job to have to do. Then he grabbed a pen with his sticky fingers and wrote a little ticket to take to the checkout. Fun times. And all we got was a nickel for each one back then, didn't go to 10 cents until 2017.

Next technological leap was a kiosk outside the stores. It was filled with constantly jammed machines and was another big pain in the ass.
The kiosks were a stinky, cramped and crowded mess shoved off in some forgotten corner outdoors or in an open-to-the-outside alcove on the exterior of the store. When we had cans to bring back, we'd usually have to wait for someone to finish counting their cans so we could have a  machine to feed them into.

If it was winter, we'd have to stand in the wind and rain.
In summer, there were hornets buzzing around. All that sugar everywhere, I guess.

The machines were constantly jamming or full and unable to accept more cans/bottles.

Then you had to push a button. Over the store's PA system you'd hear, "Customer service at the bottle return." Sometimes that button would be pushed multiple times and NO ONE CAME to help.

It was frustrating and we finally got tired of the bullshit and started tossing our returnable cans and bottles into our bin at curbside.

Most weeks a little old man came and went through our recycling bin about 5 AM on Friday mornings and took them all. We figured that at least the stuff was getting recycled and that we were doing the guy a favor.


Going through the inconvenience of trying to return them just got to be too much.
Not sure when, probably in the early 90s, the state 'improved' things by opening bottle return places.
Bottle Drop they call it.
A roll of 10 Green Bags costs $2.00.
Then they charge 40 cents for every bag you drop off to be counted.

When we go in to get bags, they print stickers for us, too. Then when we take them back, they go into a little door on the side of the building and someone there scans the tag, runs the items through a machine to be counted and the money just shows up in our account. We scan our keyfob at the store and get a little paper ticket with a dollar amount. Present it when we check out and just like that, a big 20 or 30 dollars off the bill.

Since the plague hit, the lines at the place are all the way along the edges of the parking lot. There's no place to park. It's like an anthill.

T
hey're practicing social distancing, but from the time it opens in the morning until it closes at night, there are people in line. Every time I've driven by since mid-March, the line is alllll the way around the parking lot and down the little drive into the industrial area that's behind the little plaza. There are at least 40 people in line at all times of the day.

So there are people asking on Facebook for anyone who is willing to donate their cans. People are willing to go stand in line for two hours in the heat to get their ten or twenty bucks.

Once in awhile someone offers some cans and bottles and there are 10 to 15 people wanting to come get them almost immediately.

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And our "representatives" can't decide how much money to give to corporations and their big campaign donors.

When this all started, they added a bit to people's unemployment benefits, which kept the economy going a little.

Not everyone got the extra. Some didn't get any help at all.
Which has led to people lining up to get a little bit of cash at the bottle return.

It's awful.

Think about how much worse it would be if they didn't even have that.

I'm scared for the direction this country is headed.

The moratorium on evictions is about to expire.
People have no money.
Many are hungry.

And the people who are supposed to be representing all of us are wrangling over stupid shit. I noticed that they managed to agree not to shut government down... meaning that they get to keep their gold-plated benefits and big salaries, and of course keep all the money given to them by their corporate bosses.

I'm starting to get more than a little angry.

I can't see that voting for one candidate over another is going to do a fucking thing, either. Since it IS both sides fucking off and doing nothing to help.

16 comments:

  1. It's always been the lesser of two evils. It's just that the gap has widened considerably since Reagan. The only thing that might change this is ranked choice voting. Some states have started it. It needs to work it's way up to the federal government.

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    1. I have read a little about ranked choice. It sounds do-able, but of course the two parties entrenched in the filthy cesspool aren't going to allow anything that would wreck their nice places.

      I'd like to see a system where no one is part of any political party, where we get to choose someone who could do the damn job.

      No one has consulted me.
      I don't know why.

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  2. We get a nickel here. We don't drink much soda though, so ours go in a recycle bin in the garage until there's enough to warrant counting them and dropping them off. Bonus son drinks nothing but soda. He's too lazy to return them though (even though he literally works in the grocery store) so every so often we get BAGS and BAGS dropped off in our garage. He could easily leave them out by the dumpster at his condo and someone would take them, but no. He brings them to us, where they become my sticky, moldy problem.

    Normally this would be no issue. I'd take a day, count them all, bag them and drop them off. But with the pandemic they have limited the return amount to 100 per day. Which means 3 or 4 trips to get rid of them, only to have more bags arrive in a month.

    Hubs doesn't understand why this pisses me off. Because to him, it's money, and since he literally would let them pile up until next September, he could care less. But it drives me crazy.

    One of these days I'm going to drive them back to the condo and leave them by the dumpster. But we all know I'm just talk. At the end of the day, I like the $5 in my pocket.

    Ridiculous, right?

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    1. A great deal of ours is bottled water. I know, I know, 'it's just tap water'. But the water that comes from our tap tastes like chlorine filtered through paper towels. It's nasty.

      The number of returnable cans here is 350 per person per day. There are entire families waiting in line, each with their pile of bags. I'm guessing they each have their own accounts.

      I hate that people have been forced to scrounge for returnable bottles and cans to survive.

      The boy dropping off his cans/bottles would annoy me, too. Have you asked him to stop?

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    2. Sadly, it's the HUSBAND that insists we take them and will even drive over to get them. *sigh* I still have 101 in the garage to go. I think I've driven by it 4 times this week and said "damn, I should ahve brought the cans" every time.

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    3. Hm. Sounds to me like that makes it HIS job.
      :)

      I know what it's like, though.
      I have a bag in the trunk right now, I just have to catch the bottle return place at the exact time that it's not jam packed. Except that never happens.
      ::sigh::

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  3. Vote against the incumbent. The replacement may not be any better but won't have the well oiled graft machine yet.

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    1. I think it would be wonderful if when their term is over, they're not allowed to run again. Ever. Oh, and we shouldn't have to pay for their retirements. Let them save their own damn money for it.

      Also, if they do a shitty job or get caught being a goddamn thief, there should be fitting punishment.

      I'd be happy to participate in that.

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  4. I wish New Mexico had the tax/refund on our bottles and cans. I always put them in the recycling, but the way things are going, I'm not sure the recyclers are actually doing anything with them.

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    1. Oregon's 'representatives' have always prided themselves on being big on the environment. So much so that they do absolutely stupid damn things. Example... making single use plastic bags illegal. The thin plastic and manufacturing process mean that those are the LEAST harmful to the environment from production to disposal. But they can now pat themselves on the back for appearing to give a shit.

      Same with electric cars. They think those are better for the environment despite the science that says otherwise. Dumb fucking liberal idiots if you ask me.

      And no, I don't hate all that is liberal, just people like those.

      Regarding the cans and bottles, THAT has been a decent program. Cut way back on the waste being dumped into the landfills and tossed out next to the highway. And then of course it's become a way for people to scrounge food during this time.

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  5. Instead of voting for a good candidate it feels like we are voting for the lesser of two evils. And for the love fat bassets, we need term limits.

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    1. It feels like we're voting for a rapey old man. On both sides of the ticket. Shitty individuals.

      Both of them are a poor choice. I can't believe that in a nation with more than 200 million people those two are the best choices.

      Yes, term limits, no fat retirement packages, no health insurance after they've served their terms.

      None of them care about you. Or me. Or anything but being the party in power. It makes me sick.

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  6. Things are going to get bad I think.

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    1. It's still going to get a lot worse, I think. And there isn't a thing I can do except watch it happen. Knowing that a lot of people have things worse than I do sometimes helps, at least I take time to be grateful, but what a shitshow.

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  7. That's terribly sad. Then all the wildfires raging, lord. I wish I had a good answer.

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    1. It's sad and it makes me angry. The 'best' country in the world, the one with most of the money and the ideals and the people who know what to do... and people are sick and hungry and not being taken care of.

      As for the fires... it's close enough that I know several people who have had to leave on a level 3 (GO NOW) alert. Far enough away that I'm not concerned that I'm going to be in danger.

      I DO know not to say, 'what next' 'cause that's just a terrible idea.

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